Escape Velocity - No One's Safe

I was starting to look at the parameters of the planet and I realized that it is in the general size parameters of the planets Uranus and Neptune. Both of the planets are smaller in diameter than this planet Tiamat is. Therefore, their escape velocities are lower than Tiamat's and I think you know where I am going with this. I am wondering what that chunk of material that was thrown off early on in that planet's explosion went to and how fast. The escape velocities of Uranus and Neptune are 21.3 km/sec and 23.5 km/sec respectively. This works out to 12.99 mps and 14.36 mps for their conversions to our system. This is not good as our escape velocity is around 7.0 mps. The escape velocity of Tiamat is likely greater than either one of these figures so we have something to sweat out. Jupiter's escape velocity is 44 mps so the figure we are looking for is somewhere in between 23.5 and 44 mps.

Uranus's diameter is 31,182 miles and Neptune's is 30,214 miles, both considerably below that of Tiamat. Its hard to pick a figure here as the physical size of Jupiter is roughly 10 times the volume of Tiamat while the escape velocity should certainly be well above that of the two gas giants out beyond Saturn. However, Jupiter has a low density so the mass is not as great as would be expected of the body out there in the asteroid belt. I would suggest a very conservative value of 25 miles per second knowing it could easily reach 30 miles per second. Using 25 miles per second as a possible velocity that the mystery fragment must have had when it left the planet, its hard to see how the object could not be large, even with the shock of breakage into smaller pieces upon leaving the volcano. That "volcano" could have easily ejected something of a mile or more in diameter that still is intact upon leaving the planet. How many of these bodies could have been ejected is hard to know without precise observation, but I would think it could be in the hundreds based on the sheer area of the crater that sent them on their way. Using the 705 mile diameter crater and figuring its surface area, I come up with 390,000 square miles which is huge. Its not hard to see that a few, if not hundreds of large rocks could have survived the ejection intact in a cone of 180 degrees from the point of ejection just like a scatter gun, except that most of them would be headed in a cone of probably 30 degrees across, that is, the ones that escaped. That is what I was trying to point out in that set of images, I think about 6 or 8 in all that showed all the "lines" and about a quarter of them were not aligned with the stars at all. I really didn't count them but just guessed as the numbers were high. Someone said about it that it looked like a leaf blower in its affect on the asteroid belt, not realizing that the things being blown were not the usual residents of the asteroid belt, but were from off the planet, itself. That is why we need to watch Mars as it gives a clue to our situation. The speeds of the objects are much greater than the 30,000 miles per hour than I projected because I was suggesting that this body was 9240 miles in diameter, not 40,000 on average.

So, figuring 25 miles per second, comes to 90,000 miles per hour, 2,160,000 miles per day, 64,800,000 miles per month(30 days), a lot of territory is covered. That is probably a low figure by quite a lot. We need to watch Mars now. Tonight marks the 30 day point so, objects could have covered 65 million miles easily, maybe over 70 million miles.

The whole situation comes down to what happened to the cap of the volcano. Did it come off in one or more large pieces, or did it just make a large meteor shower heading our general direction? Without knowing the dynamics of the situation, its just not possible to say.

Something else we need to look for here are the returning fragments from the original ejection. Is this what the "gases/dust" are? That does not seem likely in view of the fact that the velocities increased for these things. Your idea of the solar wind seems the best to explain all of this with the electrical activity that comes with it. So, are we still looking for the large returning objects that might be there. Maybe this accounts for the extra vents that you spotted on the body. I wonder if its possible to work something out to figure if any of them are made from returning fragments?

I guess I need to study the explosion some more to see what I can learn on all of this. Maybe, something can even be worked out on the ejection angle of all of this stuff.

It seems to me that a sudden rise in temperature and a drastic increase in the IR signature could help us in that. If we could see several new spots on the planet's surface with all of this, not to mention on Mars as well. I guess this is why I put off figuring this stuff off so long, knowing what is ahead.

We certainly need to know more about the nature of that volcanic explosion on the planet. Just what started what and how big the crater was initially and if some of that large area is return material as I imagine most of it would be. It does seem that vast majority of the explosion would be return material. Now I am thinking of the volcano on Mars that is so huge. Maybe the measurements could give a clue as to what has happened since it is mentioned so often on Wal Thornhill's page. I have a good amount of workto do. Later.
Ray

Holmes: The Largest Body In The Solar System!

Looking at the Jim Hung file, I got some estimated measurements on this "planet." It is obvious now that it is a planet because of its size and it has all of the characteristics that I will ascribe to a planet. The right hand image showing the radial distance between Holmes and the star at a distance of 9.7 arc seconds was the starting point for this set of ideas on the size of the planetTiamat . The left hand picture which is larger is a guide for me at the present time but has not yet been used to figure in the measurements I have come up with on this "thing." The time in this photo and the other set as well if basically the same, 0100UT. at night and also helped me realize that I had to have a starting point that made sense of all of this.

I assumed the planet to be at 150 million miles from us, its closest point being almost 149 million miles now, and so I used this for a point to figure what an arc second would be-72.68 miles,43,611 miles for anarcminute , and 2.617 million miles for a degree. I used the 150 million miles x 3.14 x 2 (radius x2) to get a total 942.0 million miles for a circumference to figure the radian measurements from.

So, the body on the right, the intense hot spot that was in the photo on the upper right, was measured at 9.7 arc seconds from a nearby star in the photo. I realized the size was the same which translated into 9.7 arc seconds x 72.7 miles(rounding off from 72.68) to get the hot spot on the planet that measured approximately 705 miles across just for the explosion that occurred which allowed the rest of the body to be illuminated by its light-at least partly. If you look at the second set of photos, a short 3 frame movie, you will notice that the illumination spreads out with the spread of the gases that cross the face of the planet. The first frame of the Allen1 movie shows only the explosion and a part of the planet that is illuminated by the cloud that is spreading out across the body in a giant wave from the center-the hot spot, which is really a super volcano. Actually, the cloud is gas and debris that is spreading across the body of the planet at a speed of 2.4 km/sec from the center of the explosion.

I wanted to make an important point here about why I think this is an explosion of a volcano. You will notice the spot does not move with respect to the main body of the planet, but does move in the partial rotation shown in the Allen movie. More on that later. This massive explosion does not expand beyond the size that it first started with in its intensity. The basic size of the explosion stays the same in all three frames in theAllen movie. This suggests that something else is "confining" the explosion to a certain size and intensity, a volcano. The continuous illumination of the hot spot is a continuous volcanic outburst of such a magnitude that we have never witnessed on earth or anywhere else in the solar system for that matter. This is where the missing energy is coming from. The massive outpouring of gas and debris is unabated over a long period of time, perhaps due to the tremendous electric forces at work here on this body at this time.

Upon further expansion of the gas and debris across the surface of the planet, more illumination is present on further parts of the body. In frame 2, the limits of the body are reached by the debris and it remains confined to the environment of the planet as evidenced by the "shadows" that occur roughly 1/4 of an inch away from the hot spot. If you take the speed of 2.4 km/sec and translate it into a 24 hour time frame, you come up with a speed of 5250 miles an hour over that time frame and circumference of about 126,000 miles. This works out to a radius of about 20,063 miles out for the shadow seen in the south eastern part of the body in relation to the hot spot in the second photo of Allen1 movie. A diameter of at least 40,000 miles across is seen here, except that the body is rotating about 30 degrees CW and is like an oval or potato as you described it in the previous article. This suggests that the long side is 46,800 miles with the shorter measurement of 35,200 miles if an average is taken of the size(40,000 average roughly).
Ray Ward

10,000 Dead, Maybe More

As we debate the attributes of Comet Holmes, thousands are struggling to stay alive in Bangladesh. Hurricane Sidr came ashore and raged havoc with the poor and vulnerable. Cyclone Sidr, which struck late on Thursday, brought winds of up to 240km/h (150mph) and a tidal surge of several metres. They also report that some 500,000 homes have been destroyed. Shrimp farms and rice fields have been obliterated. People have already started to starve. Who knows what disease and pestilence will take more life in the coming weeks. This cyclone, as they are called in this part of the world, came after days of flooding in the country.
So as we sit comfortably in our homes tonight, let's give some thought to the thousands who have lost loved ones to this devistation and even more that are hungry and without shelter in Bangladesh.

Questions For or About Comet Holmes

I have been watching and studying comets for some years now. This one is a strange one. We've had quite a few "strange" behaving comets over the last few years. The dirty snowball model has lost any authority that it ever did have. However the EMF model continues to be the only reliable model that we can trust. With all of the strange behaviors that we've seen, the only model that can explain these differences and behaviors is the electrical model.

I have a couple of proposals. First, because we tend to cling to old ideas, we quickly jump to the assumption that this gas ball is coming from the comet. I would suggest that the gas ball is coming from the space that the comet is traveling through. It is gathering hydrogen and other elements as a result of the highly electrical charges surrounding the body. The charge on the body is greater than the force of the solar wind pushing the tail. Why? Maybe because of the makeup of the comet, maybe because of the speed or shape of the body. I would compare this huge ball of gas to ball lightning. It has all of the elements of ball lightning and
I would refer the reader to Alexey Dmitriev's writing on Vacuum Domains.

The body appears to be potato shaped and the arrows point to areas of electrical charge contacts where plumes of newly created gas are being formed. You can even see the bow shock outside of the lower left edge of the body. It creates a semicircle of matter on the leading edge.

Further, I would suggest that this is the way that planets are made. The charge
gathers the elements around the body and it grows. After a tipping point is reached the body settles into an orbit that befits it's size, charge and such. Or... the orbit may change, becoming in conflict with other bodies in the solar system. This of course has happened before. Just take a look beyond Mars at the debris field - it was once a planet - I believe it was referred to as TIAMAT!

Regardless of this comet's behavior, the fact remains that we live in a rapidly changing and volatile universe. But we must always remember that all things are connected. And something that our learned scientists have failed to understand, is that they just don't know everything. Knowledge and understanding is not proprietary, it belongs to all living. And this comet is a wonderful time for all to observe and to experience.

The Comet Holmes

I have been doing some thinking on this matter and I realized that there is a contradiction here with this comet. I read about the Hale Bopp comet and the fact that this comet has a bigger coma of gas than HB did, gives me pause. The fragment that got ejected at about 15,000 mph or so, gives me pause. I think that we have a body that is at least 6400 miles in diameter-give or take 10 % of the diameter-and you know how Jim McCanney's theory mentions herding moons around Saturn. This is a body that is herding the asteroids around the sun even if it is at such a high inclination. That picture on Kent's site is not calving, it's just the body moving through the solar sheath at the edge of the solar system, just like HaleBopp. The main body, the "nucleus" in this case, has now come back together, just like Hale Bopp did in the subsequent three days after it passed through the sheath coming in a an odd inclination out past Jupiter. I don't know why the body would need a second outburst unless it passes through a second shield around the inner solar system. Perhaps HaleBopp did this too.

The gas and dust both continue to expand as far as I can find out. The gas cloud is expanding at 575 meters per second at the present time with the total outer coma now reaching 3.14 million miles in diameter with a size of 40arcminutes in our skies, which is physically bigger to us than the sun or the moon by 10 arc minutes. It continues to expand at 1.5 arc minutes per day. One thing bothers me about all of this and that is that the gas cloud seems to be slowing up now as if the pull of the nucleus is retarding its rate of speed. It had been measured by those in the know at 660 meters per second. This amounts to a significant drop in its velocity and hence might suggest a final size to all of this.

Here is another thing. The fragment that was cast off could simply be the result of the electrical interaction with the sheath as the "comet" passes through it. Here is the real problem. The minimum speed of the fragment is around 15,000 mph that I can up withball parking it. Others have calculated it at over 18,000 mph and in one place I recall it mentioned at 30,000 mph. This would mean the fragment is coming at us almost head on and that the body it came from is 8400 miles in diameter, give or take 10 % which could put it at 9240 miles in diameter at the high end. With the extreme darkening of the object-total surface is black with all the volcanic eruptions spilling out the basalt onto it and the clouds that keep out prying eyes. My point with all of this is that Tiamat is still with us and never left the solar system! It is there, herding all the asteroids around the sun, just like those sweeper moons around Saturn. It is collecting its parts again. When it does, then what? Hale Bopp may be another large part of us as it crossed our orbit on its way back out of the solar system. Who knows, maybe in a thousand years or so, these might coalesce back together again into the celestial sphere we knew as earth. Then Mars and Venus will take their rightful places again, above and below the earth. I don't know where the moon is in all of this. Maybe its just part of the earth also.

To summarize things here, we have Tiamat in the orbit of Holmes and well known throughout the ages because of its periodic outbursts. It used to be home, I guess, but now its only known as the king of terror in the skies. This is something that Nostradamus would know about because of its regularity of outbursts, roughly every 115 years or so, perhaps a little less through the ages as it changed its orbit after each outburst. It would not be visible due to its darkened face and its high orbit across the solar system. Is this also Niburu ? Could someone have survived on that body to bring problems to earth? This might have happened before the earth was in its final form of today and Adam was born. Could all of this have been when Adam was put out of the garden, then the planet was split up when Mars and Venus were taken away and contact with the heavens was broken physically. Could this be one of the secrets of the ages, thatTiamat is still here and close by. The ancients might have witnessed it being in close and with those thunderbolts, would have pinpointed it and perhaps kept track of it in its orbit. That knowledge might have survived through the ages and was kept hidden from the masses, that is until now. There might even be more of these sweeper moons around throughout the asteroid belt.

On November 21, when it occults Algol, will its size be made known? Or will its true size never be known because of some kind of interference? May God help us through these times and tribulations. Take care.
Raymond Ward